Photos for Kristen

Here are the photos you requested. I hope these help. If you need more detail or detail of other parts of the loom, do let me know!

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This is the rod attaching the warp beam to the inner pipe on the lower warp beam.
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See how the sisal rope wraps around the warp beam brake drum.
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It is attached at the back (on an upright) with a nut and bolt through the upright.
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Another view of the rope brake from the back of the loom.
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And on the other side of the brake drum (the front) it attaches to the brake lever with a metal eye bolt.
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This is what I am calling the eye bolt. The shaft passes through the brake lever and is fastened with a nut.
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The brake lever passes under the castle and is held in place under this metal plate. To advance the warp you kick the lever out from under the plate, advance the warp using the cloth beam ratchet, and kick the lever back under the plate.
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This is the brake lever on the upper sectional beam.
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It is held in place with this tiny metal plate (which amazingly does the job).
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The ratchet brake on the cloth beam.
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Another view. This does a better job of showing the lever used to advance the warp.
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You mentioned you had extra springs. Could they be for the treadles? Each treadle has a spring under it.
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21 thoughts on “Photos for Kristen

  1. Thank you Susan! My loom is put together and most definitely has a different tension and brake system than yours- no rope but rather a second cast iron ratchet, rather like your front cloth beam. I’d be happy to share photos if you are interested. You are right- the extra springs went under the treadles.

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    • I’d love to see photos. Is it possible to share them here? I saw your post on Weavolution. I wonder if the rear ratchet was a special request from the original purchaser? From what I understand Mr. Binder made the looms for his students. Oh, that reminds me…I looked into my sources for information on Binder looms. Weavolution was one, another was the Weaving Today forums which, unfortunately, seem to no longer exist. I wish I had screen-shotted the page.

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      • Hi Susan, I can’t send photos in the comments section but you should be able to see the email that I use to submit comments. if you email me at that address I’ll be able to reply and send photos.

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  2. Hi Susan! I just stumbled onto your blog and I too own a Binder loom! I didn’t even know what type I had until the woman who sold me it reminded me who made it. It is amazing to see yours as it is so much like mine!! You have inspired me to clean mine up a little bit!!

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  3. I just found an old binder loom
    The back warp beam as straps across it ~ wonder why and also wondering how to attach pedals to heddles?

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    • I wonder if the straps are to hold a bar to tie the warp on to? Otherwise I don’t know. I use a metal bar that’s tied to the warp beam with clothesline, as that is how the loom was set up when I got it.

      The treadles attach to the heddle frames with wire hooks. The hooks are probably close to a foot long and bent at a right angle at the bottom, so they go through the slit in the middle of the treadle and hook under it, and the top hooks through the eyelet at the bottom of the heddle frame. You can see a picture of the hooks in place in the post titled “Reflections”, and a picture of the hooks being cleaned up in the post titled “Progress”.

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      • thank you thank you thank you for responding! I’m not finding any of the peddle connectors you described in the ‘parts’ box ~ there are a bunch of new chains??? I have been fluctuating between ‘yes bring this loom home” and “what if i can’t get her working because of missing parts!!!” Also there are plenty of heddles but only 4 harnesses:( ~ I live in Lubbock Texas and can’t find any weavers but was so glad to find your post yesterday which helped me identify this old girl. Would you happen to know of any books, pics or diagrams on how she should be put back together again? And would you know if there would be a way to get four more harnesses? I have tapestry, Saori and rigid heddle looms but wanted to launch into a floor loom to make rugs~ and this loom was made known to me (been sitting in a second story classroom in an old church for 20 years and was taken partially apart to move it I guess…)

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      • So my son made me extra hooks to connect my treadles to my lamms (which connects them to the weaving shafts). If you need one as a blue print, I can send you one in a couple of months. They are currently all in storage as we just moved!

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      • You can also purchase the hooks (or very similar ones) from Macomber Looms in York, Maine. I wonder if that was the original source.

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      • If you can only find 4 shafts it may be a 4 shaft loom. The castle on mine is made to accommodate 8, I wouldn’t easily be able to add more. In addition to the frames there would be hardware needed for the jacks, and additional treadles. You might want to measure the castle to see if it would fit more than 4 shafts. I have no idea where you could find additional parts. As I understand it these looms were not made in large quantities; Mr. Binder made looms for students that he was teaching to weave. I have seen a sales brochure for Binder looms but I’ve never seen any kind of manual or assembly document. I was lucky that the person who disassembled mine documented the process carefully. Let me know if there are any specific pictures you need that will help you.

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  4. Hi Susan. Thank you for posting your journey with your Binder loom. I have one that I intend to refurbish, and your information will be helpful. I’m a novice weaver, so I’m not sure if I will be able to understand all the bits and pieces of the loom, but I’m going to try. It’s an 8-shaft loom with the double back beam and the rope brake. I believe all the pieces are here as the lady I bought it from had been using it. Every time I look at it, I wonder “what was I thinking?” lol.

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    • I’m glad the blog has been helpful to you. When I got my first loom and was cleaning it up, I found Tom Knisely’s The Loom Owner’s Companion helped me figure out how all the pieces fit together. Please feel free to ask any questions!

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      • THANK YOU! I have the DVD and will definitely put it to use. Your loom is beautiful and it’s wonderful to see these pieces restored and in use. I wish we knew more about where they have been and how many weavers used them.

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  5. Hello my name is Justin I’m trying to find out more information about a loom that I inquired or I should say save from being burnt for my house that was being remodeled I put it together and I have pictures of it and then there’s a stamp in the wood that says binder Loom manufacturer Pasadena California Grace France 1939 if you know who I can talk to or if you can help me but I could send some pictures that’d be grateful

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    • Hi Justin,
      Pretty much everything I know about Binder looms is here. They were made by a Mr. Binder in Pasadena in the mid-twentieth century for his weaving students. I’m wondering if Grace France was the original owner of your loom? 1939 seems to be on the early side of his manufacturing, but I don’t know when he started. I’m sorry to have so little knowledge to give. Perhaps someone else can help? I got some information on Weavolution, I haven’t been there in a while and I don’t how active that site is now. I’d be happy to take a look at pictures or even post them if you think that would be of help to you.
      Susan

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  6. I don’t know if you still read the comments on this blog, but thank you so much for posting these pictures! I’ve been scouring the web trying to figure out who made my odd little loom with no maker mark. Mine doesn’t have the upper sectional beam, but it obviously very closely related. Thank you!

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  7. I was recently given a floor loom that belonged to the woman’s grandmother. She believed she bought it in the 1930’s and lived in Glendora, Ca. It had been sitting for a few decades untouched, luckily still assembled so I didn’t have the challenge of putting it together. With the help of a weaving guild member, we identified it as a Binder Loom and were was able to figure out the cloth beam ratchet and the brake system which is just like yours. Mine is a 4 shaft counterbalance though. My one question is, should it have a handle to turn the warp beam to wind on or is it turned by hand?

    Also, once I found your blog and someone commented on the address for W.H. Binder in Altadena, I discovered his house/studio was literally down the street from me! So fun to think my loom was likely made a block away.

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    • Hi Shannon,

      Mine has a heavy cast iron handle that kind of wedges inside the center of the warp beam. I find it easier to turn the beam by hand than to use it.

      Susan

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